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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/19/2009 7:16:18 AM
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shaman
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My big plot is doing very well. I planted it back in 2006 with ladino and yellow sweet clover. We had drought in 06 and 07. I went back over it in March of this year and threw down some more ladino in the bare spots. All that came up plus some volunteer red clover.
Back in March, I was amazed at how hard the turkeys and deer had been hitting this field. You could not put your foot down without walking on a deer track or a turkey track. However, the deer have now moved off it , feasting on stuff elsewhere. This leaves the food plot alone and gives it time to regenerate.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/19/2009 8:18:35 AM
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NYarcher
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Hello msbadger. I have a question (actually advise), In a earlier post of yours you mentioned being in region 8 new york. I am also in region 8 Genesee county to be exact. This will be my first year experimenting with food plots. My problem is I dont own the property so I am limited on where I can plant. My only choice is between crop rows. The farmer didnt plant corn this year so whatever it may be it wont be too high. What have you had the best luck with overall and what would you suggest to plant between rows? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/19/2009 8:43:23 AM
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msbadger
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NYA...thats a ? that I need to answer with a question...what crops do you plan to plant between...and when does the farmer expect to harvest those plants?...Does he have a good amount of space that is between field edge and the crop it's self...you could plant there...Factors..... when harvesting the tractor could tear up what you plant....the farmer sprays his fields for invading weeds wiping out what you put in....set up...if the crop field has a wooded edge ...could you plant a shot plot in a some area off the field?...... alsoCheck out NAHC...under land management and then looking for consultant...for a few ideas on things
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/19/2009 10:35:56 AM
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NYarcher
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Unsure of what was planted. I wanna say carrots this year. Very odd crop for our area where its predominately corn and soybean but this farmer changer things up once and awhile from his norm. Several years back he planted Butternut Squash. The deer loved it. Was a huge draw due to being the odd crop in the area. The current sprouts in the field were 1/4 - 1/2 inch high as of 2 days ago. Planted to within 3 ft. of the edge of the woods. The farmer generally never uses pesticides or herbicides. The field at this time is the only place/option open to me to try. If it gets tilled under in oct. I dont mind. The area I want to do this in is already a high traffic area (high point of the field and woods) and If i can aid in delivering better nutrients for the deer as they develop over the summer then I'll consider it a success. I was considering clover during the summer and brassicas after the field gets harvested and tilled. The whole area gets full sun all day.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/19/2009 12:03:03 PM
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NYarcher
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thanks for your help msbadger. hopefully i can get foodplot to grow almost as well as yours.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/20/2009 1:17:00 PM
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sagittarius
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The clover plots planted the fall of 08, 07, and 06 are all looking great.
My corn, soybeans, and sugarbeets are in, but waiting for rain and warmer temperatures, soil is too cold. Some farmers got corn in two weeks ago but, it is barely up an inch. Most corn is in and waiting for rain, soybean planting is waiting for the soil to warm up.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/20/2009 7:04:52 PM
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billcurry
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sagittarius,
those sugarbeets you planted, are they the Roundup Ready kind? Have you ever planted sugar beets in the past-if so how did the deer like them? Thanks in advance!
Question for anyone with an answer-I have about couple winter wheat food plots now that are about 10" tall-if I cut the winter wheat before it seeds, will it come back or will it be dead. The reason for the question is that I want to save some money by not buying Gly-4 and would like to just mowing before no-tilling in beans. Whos got an answer?
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/20/2009 8:52:15 PM
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Sagittarius or somebody else may know better than I but I would guess that it would not die and that is just a guess.
No-till aye, did you buy a drill or is a neighbor doing it? I would love to be able to do that in our sand box.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/20/2009 9:33:50 PM
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I'm thinking your wheat will die off if you cut early and don't wait for it to go to seed?Correct me if I'm wrong but wheat is an Annual Plant that has to be re-planted each season and is not a Perrenial that comes back year after year like clover or other grasses! have also seen some Farmers cut their wheat early when its green and bail it up to feed to cattle later in the year.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/21/2009 12:20:55 AM
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msbadger
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If cut before seed is set it will definately regrow....annuals grow to produce seed to reproduce and just like an annual weed thats mowed it will continue to try and produce seed....
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/21/2009 12:10:30 PM
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billcurry
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Goose,
I just called FS and the person I talked with said if I cut the wheat before the seedhead forms the plant may grow back a little but not much. They recommended just buying the generic round-up and spraying it to be sure it kills it all and then no-till in the beans or corn. I used some spray called GLY-4 a couple years ago and it killed EVERYTHING and NOTHING really has came back since.
The no-till drill I can use is at a farmers house just a mile from our property. However, his drill is pretty wide and my plots are kinda off the beatn path-getting to the plots with his tractor and drill is a bit tricky. I busted (oops) a plate off his disk last year trying to plow up a 'honey hole' deep in the timber-he didnt seem to worried about it after I gave him a handful of cash to fix it.
When you gonna let me borrow that book from that guy whos the outfitter in Buffalo County?!?!
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/21/2009 4:10:01 PM
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Goose
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We used an off brand round up last year and it worked well....cant remember the name of it right now but will look next time I'm up there. We got 2 gallons and a conditioner for the water and I think it was about $200. It is enough for us to use it 2 years so its not too bad.
Thanks for the update!
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/22/2009 2:17:05 PM
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sagittarius
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ORIGINAL: billcurry sagittarius, those sugarbeets you planted, are they the Roundup Ready kind? Have you ever planted sugar beets in the past-if so how did the deer like them? Thanks in advance! Yes, they are the Roundup Ready kind, now under the brand name "BuckGro". Yes, I also planted them in 2008, when they first became available. The deer loved them. Deer never touched the turnip/brassica mix in 2007, so I tried sugar beets. Since early December when we got snow, the deer were in the sugarbeets every night. Even digging through 2 ft of snow to get to them. The deer did not need to learn to eat, or develop a taste for sugarbeets ... they knew right away what they prefered and when.
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/22/2009 5:19:40 PM
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sagittarius
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Hey, I am a cheap SOB when it comes to food plotting too. In 10+ years of foodplotting, I have never, ever, bought or used one of them name brand seed mixes in the fancy bag with deer picture. I buy RR corn, RR soybeans, clovers, innoculants, from the same seed places farmers use.
After experimenting with $40 (1/4 acre) of RR sugarbeet seed last year ... I had no problem shelling out $89 for 1/2 acre of seed this year. To me, this is actually is, a real genuine new foodplot product. And I usually cringe when anyone calls repackaged seeds a "product", or refers to repackaged bulk seed varieties as "brand names". Putting roundup resistant traits into sugarbeets has created a new planting oportunity for foodplotters. It is the first seed I've every been excited about planting again.
Deer around my home are picky eaters. There is plenty of quality habitat, agriculture, and the deer population is well below the carrying capacity of the land. The way the deer prefered sugarbeets over turnips/brassicas surprised the hell out of me.
I would not however, attempt to plant expensive RR sugarbeets in our northern Wisconsin plots. The deer up there are so desparate for anything even moderately palatable, the will readily eat cheap brassica and turnips, or anything else. Just my humble, annual, observations.
For the record, I have no affiliation with BuckGro or either of the distributors. But, I did get a free hat when I bought my seed at the deer and turkey expo in Madison, did not have to pay shipping fees. 
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RE: How are your plots growing? - 5/23/2009 9:21:18 PM
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Stickman
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Clover plots all growing like wildfire,mainly because of rain every day. Here in Alabama it is raining every day of the week. Fixing to plant soybeans in June, would like to trade hunt with somebody up north this winter.
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