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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 6:59:48 AM
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smudd55
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Wow! That is crazy! I have never really been scared of them. They are usually around when I am walking to my stand in the morning. I know they aren't deer because they let me get closer than deer do but they still keep their distance. This makes me rethink things. There could always be a rouge in the group. That is to bad.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 7:23:53 AM
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buckandbow
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This happened not far from me in Cape Breton,Nova Scotia at a hiking trail in a provincial park where no hunting or trapping takes place.
They feel this was done by a couple of young coyotes that the hikers that use the trail may throw food to aand have become use to getting free food.
They shot one of them and are having it checked for rabies but have not posted the results yet. The other thing her mother said that her daughter would not have wanted the coyotes detroyed for what they did to her as she was in there space.
The coyotes have not always been here in Nova Scotia,the first sighting was in 1977 and that only happened after they went looking to see what was killing sheep in some farmers field.
I will post more when the info is avaliable.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 7:27:19 AM
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That is totally out of character for Coyotes. The only verified wolf attack in this country involved rabies.
It wasn't too long ago that a pack of wolve killed a guy in Canada. I think that it was just 2 wolves, but I'm not sure about the number.
Coyotes will eat whatever type of animal that it can get into it's mouth. If the pack thinks that they have a chance to eat a person without getting hurt, then they will. A couple of years ago a toddler went missing. The boy figured out how to open the back door and went or a walk. The good news is that they found the little boy without harm, but it was because two of the volunteers were hunters. They heard a pack of coyotes yipping and getting excited and went to the sound. The coyotes were tracking and eventually circling the boy when they found him. Wild animals are all dangerous to some extent. I don't think the coyote attack will become common place, but coyotes have spread across the country and live in our back yards and it will become more of a problem.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 5:03:24 PM
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I dont find it hard to believe. I was chased by a pack of coyotes when i was about 11 or 12 years old. Ive shot everyone ive seen since then.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 8:03:10 PM
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Thats to sad.. I hear them all the time too..
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 8:29:37 PM
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I'm a relatively new hunter, and sometimes I have to hunt alone. I hunt with a climber stand and walk a good ways from my truck around 5am in the morning and I'm walking back to the truck after dark when I hunt in the evenings. I use a headlamp, and I don't have a handgun so I'm a little nervous especially in the mornings. I try to be quiet, and I live near the coast in South Carolina so I'm worried about walking up on hogs or coyotes patterning me. Am I a chicken or do I have a reason to be concerned? By walking around the woods in the dark, what do I need to be worried about?
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/1/2009 10:15:00 PM
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Jerimy,
You are not chicken. It is much better to go in understanding risks, thinking about them and what you would do should you come across a dangerous situation.
First I would say you should know the area you are hunting and be familiar with the terrain, especially because you (we) walk in the dark. Falling off a hill or cliff can be just as dangerous as a couple coyotes. Where I hunt (and I usually hunt alone), there are of course skunks and raccoons, but also some wild pack dogs and coyotes, so I do carry a handgun (I have a conceal carry permit) and everytime I get out of my truck, get my gear ready and start my walk to my stand, I try to make sure my right hand is free (to reach for the gun) just in case I do run into something. It is usually dark, but I have the lights in my cap and I will turn them on and off as I approach certain points in my walk. Being prepared is important and if you are thinking about it, then your senses are more in tune to what is happening around you. I make sure my ears are not covered when I am walking to my stand. I want to hear every sound. I love to hunt and understand the risks. Now it's not to say if I were in an area known to have wolves or bears, that I might not be a little chicken to go out on my own to hunt. I might actually think twice about it.
Enjoy your hunting but be aware of your surroundings. I am not sure what else you can do or have with you to protect yourself, but I am sure there are others on this forum that may have an idea that would be deemed legal.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/2/2009 2:09:36 AM
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I live near the coast in South Carolina so I'm worried about walking up on hogs or coyotes patterning me. Am I a chicken or do I have a reason to be concerned? By walking around the woods in the dark, what do I need to be worried about?
Forget about this incident, from what we have already learned, it will probably turn out as I suspected in my first post ... that this young woman was probably feeding these animals ... very likely squatting down as she was doing it, & from there, a dozen different bad scenarios could or would follow. Coyotes do not attack adult humans. They are very opportunistic & just because they're checking you out ... that doesn't mean that they're planning to put you on the menu. If you see one, or four in close proximity ... if you growl & charge them ... they will take off like a Road Runner Cartoon. Ask anyone who hunts Coyote. They don't stand out in the open hoping a Yote will decide to come in & eat them! They have to hide from them or they take off. Now, if you come across one of your Carolina 300 lb, 6" tusk Razorbacks ... let em pass, let em pass. 
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/2/2009 3:22:25 PM
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It could be that wolves attacked this person, and the coyotes were hanging around when they shot one. I've never heard of a coyote attacking an adult human, but you never know I guess.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/2/2009 3:58:28 PM
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It's quite possible that she was on her menstral cycle and they could smell blood.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/2/2009 5:51:06 PM
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Jerimy240
I live near the coast in South Carolina so I'm worried about walking up on hogs or coyotes patterning me. Am I a chicken or do I have a reason to be concerned? By walking around the woods in the dark, what do I need to be worried about?
Forget about this incident, from what we have already learned, it will probably turn out as I suspected in my first post ... that this young woman was probably feeding these animals ... very likely squatting down as she was doing it, & from there, a dozen different bad scenarios could or would follow. Coyotes do not attack adult humans. They are very opportunistic & just because they're checking you out ... that doesn't mean that they're planning to put you on the menu. If you see one, or four in close proximity ... if you growl & charge them ... they will take off like a Road Runner Cartoon. Ask anyone who hunts Coyote. They don't stand out in the open hoping a Yote will decide to come in & eat them! They have to hide from them or they take off. Now, if you come across one of your Carolina 300 lb, 6" tusk Razorbacks ... let em pass, let em pass.
You know, for all the money wiley coyote put into acme products, he could've gotten himself a nice steak dinner!
I'm just sayin'
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/2/2009 11:48:09 PM
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mightyfofaad
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nhdeerchaser: You know, for all the money wiley coyote put into acme products, he could've gotten himself a nice steak dinner!
I'm just sayin'
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/3/2009 2:57:36 AM
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mightyfofaad
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While we're on the subject, some folks capture photos of animals in their trail cams & the subject comes up repeatedly as to whether the animal in question is a dog, a yote or wolf. I thought I'd copy over to this post, an answer I gave which many may find helpful.
COYOTE vs WOLF Admittedly, it can be confusing because, let's face it, they're very similar animals, and, when viewing a large coyote vs a small wolf; it gets even more confusing ... if you don't know what to look for.
In general, the wolf is much larger(*) ... but it also has more powerful neck & shoulders & when standing still, you'll note the wolf's shoulders are always (usually) higher than it's hind quarters. But the best & easiest way to tell the difference is in the face ... note the two superimposed photos ... it's easy ... the coyote has a more Fox like face & ears.
As a matter of fact ... I believe a Fox & a Wolf once mated ... and that's how we got the Coyote. 
(*) Coyote 20-60 lbs ... Timber Wolf 80-170 lbs (aka Gray Wolf)
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/3/2009 9:57:45 AM
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This is very sad indeed.
I wonder what the resurgence is in coyote's?
Seems just about every hunter/farmer I know or read about will take coyotes out asap if they can, yet their numbers continue to appear to be growing??
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/3/2009 11:37:58 AM
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This is very sad indeed.
I wonder what the resurgence is in coyote's?
Seems just about every hunter/farmer I know or read about will take coyotes out asap if they can, yet their numbers continue to appear to be growing??
I would say it's because they've adapted to living in urban woods where hunting in general is not allowed. Just last night my wife is driving home from work about 11:30 on the outskirts of town but still in town along a wooded area and there standing by the side of the road she sees a coyote. At first I doubted her but when she described it as a big fox and questioned whether it was a wolf I knew right away it was a coyote. I think we'll continue to see more interactions of coyotes with humans as their population grows and no doubt we'll hear about more attacks.
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/3/2009 1:23:49 PM
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mightyfofaad
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This is very sad indeed.
I wonder what the resurgence is in coyote's?
Seems just about every hunter/farmer I know or read about will take coyotes out asap if they can, yet their numbers continue to appear to be growing??
Look at the Chinese Panda. It will only live in a very limited type of ecosystem, only eat one type of food & has a slow birth rate. Many, many species have disappeared because they were too specialized & when their environment changed, they couldn't adapt & thus disappeared. The Coyote on the other hand is a true evolutionary success story. They are not specialized & have a fast birthrate. They are aggressively opportunistic & will eat anything, anywhere. Additionally, with very limited numbers of eagles, wolves, pumas & grizzlies ... they're not subject to predation ... why wouldn't they be all over the place? Additionally, as Squirrelhawker pointed out, many rural & suburban folks are inadvertently putting out the Welcome sign for yotes. If you allow them to find food once at your farm or house ... "they'll be back."
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/8/2009 1:28:18 PM
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mightyfofaad
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I dont find it hard to believe. I was chased by a pack of coyotes when i was about 11 or 12 years old. Ive shot everyone ive seen since then.
I wouldn't worry too much, Coyotes don't always come out on top!
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RE: Coyotes kill 19 year old woman - 11/14/2009 3:36:22 AM
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Don't know if you all saw this or not but thought it was something worth posting.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091028/ap_on_re_ca/cn_canada_coyote_attack
A lot of us deal with coyotes so please keep this in mind.
There is something screwy here & certainly missing facts. Just about every coyote I've ever come across took off the minute you looked at them & kept looking over their shoulder until they were gone.
Outside of "tales" of people relating stories that they've heard 3rd or 4th hand I've never read a "documented" story of any coyote attack except on very small children. HOWEVER, to put that in perspective, 3 to 4 million children are bitten by dogs every year. So your kid is millions of times more likely to be bitten by the family pooch, than a coyote.
Not to sound cavaliar, but it sounds like she was feeding coyotes who have lost their fear of humans, because of feeding, and ran out of food! Tragic incident, but nothing to be concerned about. With rare exceptions, when you leave wild animals alone, they leave you alone. Just saying.
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