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Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/5/2009 9:50:23 PM
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Mac
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Prayers needed!!!
It's terrible that soldiers put their lives on the line for their beliefs
and now they have to fear living in their own country...
What the hell happened to this world?
I really don't know what to say about it...
I'm just in awww and am dumb founded by this crap.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/5/2009 10:08:59 PM
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Did they ever find out what the mans motives were?
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/5/2009 10:23:19 PM
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Woods Walker
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It was reported on a blog he was on that he considered Muslim suicide bombers in the same class as an American soldier who falls on a grenade for his buddies, and that he lamented that the people in Iraq and Afghanistan should "rise up against the oppressor".....the U.S.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/5/2009 11:42:52 PM
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Yea his name was Nadil Malik Hasan. Sounds pretty muslim to me.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 8:22:05 AM
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Yes, he was Muslim, but none of these details have been sorted out yet. Lots of rumors and speculation, but lots of investigation remains to be done. It's a tragedy for those who are gone, for their families, for the nation, and for the military. All we can do right now is to cry and pray.
Steve
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 9:59:00 AM
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Woods Walker
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I just heard on the ABC news affilate radio station in Chicago that he's reported to have cried "Alla Akbhar" when he began shooting.
I think that would pretty well explain his motives.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:03:51 AM
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Woods Walker
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What puzzles me, is that they first said that the shooter was dead, and they went with this for at least 9 hours. Then they said that he wasn't dead, and so far that's the deal.
Now....I can understand how you couldn't ID the shooter, or know his motives and some other details, but come on...they couldn't tell if he was DEAD or not?????
Do what I do with a deer I've just downed before I gut him; take a small stick and poke the eye, if he blinks, then HE'S NOT DEAD!!!!
So simple, it's stupid.
Methinks there's more to this than what's being told........
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:12:24 AM
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Methinks there's more to this than what's being told........
Always.
Thoughts are with the families of the victims.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:21:57 AM
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Yes, WW, all that raises suspicions. But keep in mind that reporters often report what isn't necessarily true. We have no reason to believe that the report that the shooter was dead did not originate from someone who personally examined the shooter's body.
The talking heads are always looking for someone to talk to and something to report, so a statement from an unofficial observer saying, "It looks like they killed him" can easily be conveyed on air as "He is reported to be dead." There's not much difference in the words, but they can be interpreted very differently.
This is simply one of the costs of a free press.
That is not to say there is not more to the story. We simply don't know. It's only to say how reporting works, or doesn't work.
Steve
< Message edited by Everyday Hunter -- 11/6/2009 10:23:16 AM >
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:28:00 AM
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No matter the Major's motives or religious beliefs, lets all keep the families of the fallen and injured in our prayers. A terrible day for those American soldiers. 
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:35:51 AM
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No matter the Major's motives or religious beliefs, lets all keep the families of the fallen and injured in our prayers. A terrible day for those American soldiers.
That's exactly where our focus should be.
Steve
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:58:09 AM
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No matter the Major's motives or religious beliefs, lets all keep the families of the fallen and injured in our prayers. A terrible day for those American soldiers.
They're in my prayers, very sad.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 12:11:22 PM
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Woods Walker
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Yes, WW, all that raises suspicions. But keep in mind that reporters often report what isn't necessarily true. We have no reason to believe that the report that the shooter was dead did not originate from someone who personally examined the shooter's body.
The talking heads are always looking for someone to talk to and something to report, so a statement from an unofficial observer saying, "It looks like they killed him" can easily be conveyed on air as "He is reported to be dead." There's not much difference in the words, but they can be interpreted very differently.
This is simply one of the costs of a free press.
That is not to say there is not more to the story. We simply don't know. It's only to say how reporting works, or doesn't work.
Steve
I agree for the most part, except for the fact that the statement that the shooter was DEAD was given out BY THE ARMY through an information officer....a Lieutenant I believe....in the middle of the afternoon. This would make it an OFFICIAL statement, and not news media speculation.
Either way, my prayers go out to the families of the dead. I just heard that one of the causualties was from the Chicago suburban area.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 12:29:51 PM
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Prayers needed!!!
It's terrible that soldiers put their lives on the line for their beliefs
and now they have to fear living in their own country...
What the hell happened to this world?
I really don't know what to say about it...
I'm just in awww and am dumb founded by this crap
It is very sad for our soldiers and their families. My prayers go out to them first and foremost. All I could think when I was watching the news was how many of those killed and injured just returned from the war and were expecting to be home soon with their loved ones. It just breaks my heart.
You ask what happened to this world and I just say to you that it's the same thing it has been. And as things unfolded last night, we found that this terrible event was obviously an ideology difference that ignited the murderer to do what he did. It was obviously pre-meditated. We are just more aware and sensitive to it since we were attacked on 9/11. It made a huge impact on us and opened our eyes to the extreme muslim/islamic beliefs (or extremist beliefs posing as muslim/Islamic?) that include pure hatred for America and our values. Personally if I was a military leader and heard him say that the people in Iraq and Afghanistan should "rise up against the oppressor".....the U.S, he would have been out of the military without hesitation. I heard his cousin last night say the shooter was a 'good american'. Really? A good American who just killed 12 and injured 30. Maybe his idea of 'good' isn't quite right.
I won't rant anymore and not looking for an argument or debate and I am sure we all have our ideas about the situation. But honestly I am sick and tired of the 'politically correct' nonsense. Let's call a spade a spade. Honestly as I heard the shooters name for the first time, I immediately knew what the motive was, maybe not the details behind it, but in it's simplest form, I knew it would end up being what we have heard it to be.
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 1:23:45 PM
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... except for the fact that the statement that the shooter was DEAD was given out BY THE ARMY through an information officer....a Lieutenant I believe....in the middle of the afternoon. This would make it an OFFICIAL statement, and not news media speculation.
Either way, my prayers go out to the families of the dead. I just heard that one of the causualties was from the Chicago suburban area.
That may be so. I didn't see what you saw because I had obligations that kept me from the TV all afternoon and evening. However, there is no perfection in the military line of communication (it's human) -- especially in a case like this -- so that wrong information doesn't warrant any speculation other than someone made a mistake.
I can tell you one thing for sure -- the guy who made the mistake wasn't in a position to check for a pulse, or "take a small stick and poke the eye..."  I'm not trying to make light of the situation, but I am trying to say first-hand information in a case like this can be very difficult to get.
Now, no one bother me. The rut is on and I gotta' go huntin'.
Steve
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 7:21:29 PM
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My heart breaks for the soldiers and their families. For our nation, this is a dark day. To die in battle, defending your country is bad enough.
To be killed by one of your own, someone you may have broken bread with, is horrible beyond words.
May God bless them all, and welcome them into His open arms.
Mike
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/6/2009 10:46:05 PM
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My heart breaks for the soldiers and their families. For our nation, this is a dark day. To die in battle, defending your country is bad enough.
To be killed by one of your own, someone you may have broken bread with, is horrible beyond words.
May God bless them all, and welcome them into His open arms.
Mike
You said what I feel.............
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RE: Shout out to Fort Hood, TX. - 11/7/2009 11:39:12 AM
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God bless these men who were taken by nothing more than a coward, My prayers go out to their friends and family. One last note here when hell are the American people going to realize that the majority of these Muslim people DO NOT LIKE US! God bless.
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